There is no doubt that ILLEGAL ALIENS have caused more problems than anyone could have ever imagined. These problems WILL NOT go away until each and every ILLEGAL ALIEN is out of this Country and back in their own country where they belong. What gives them the RIGHT to be here breaking our immigration laws? WHAT?

I believe it is up to the States to pass laws like Arizona, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Missouri and a few other States. If this happens, and it can, this time next year we will have something to be thankful for. Having our Country back and free of the slime that invaded this beautiful Country!

There is a really easy way to fix the problem. Give a mandatory prison sentence to the people who hire the illegal aliens. Give Green Cards to any illegal and their family if they turn in an employer who hires them. The illegals are here to feed their families and better themselves. Demonizing them does nothing to fix the problem. Making the people who hire them illegally go to jail would do wonders to help the problem. Anyone who thinks that it would be extreme to do this, look at it this way; they are committing tax fraud. Lie about your taxes, you do time. Do not pay taxes, you go to jail. Hire someone and do not pay taxes on that individual, go to jail. It is the employers who are the problem.

Contribute nothing eh?

“The results are surprising. By focusing on the economic costs and benefits of legal and illegal immigration, Professor Hanson concludes that stemming illegal immigration would likely lead to a net
drain on the U.S. economy—a finding that calls into question many of the proposals to increase funding for border protection.”

http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/ImmigrationCSR26.pdf

“They would contribute just as much to the system as they take out.”

Actually, no. The way that things work is that everyone puts in and only some take out. In fact, I think that part of the angst over this is that there are people who are getting more than their fair share. You see it also in terms like “welfare queen” from the Right end of the political spectrum. People are indignant that someone is trying to live off of the money they paid in.

If everyone took out only what you put in then you would be limited in your health care to just what you’ve paid in sales tax. So, if you’ve purchased say $10k in goods, and paid 10% tax on that you would only get $1k in medical services back. If, to use your analogy, your arm was dangling and it cost $3k to put it back then you’d have to either buy another $20k in taxable goods, or come up with $2k somewhere, or be stuck with a dangling arm.

That’s not how it works. One, there is no way to track who has paid how much into the system. Two, even if there were, attempts to make someone come up with the difference often fail because they use fake addresses (so immigration can’t find them). Once the arm is back on they’re never seen again. And three, doctor’s can’t generally choose who to treat and who to pass on based on cost. If there is a medical need they must treat the person in front of them.

The way it works is that everyone’s money goes into a pool and only those who need it take some out. Same with schools. Everyone pays for schools, but only those with kids get services in return. This is called redistribution.

So, you have to look at $’s of services received vs. $’s of tax paid to see if they are equal. Usually, there is an economic divide involved that exists whether citizen or immigrant. Poor people generally pay less into the system than they take out. Richer people generally pay more into the system than they take out. When you have a large increase of largely lower income people via an undocumented population, that is where the significant problems arise. Getting the tax level equal between immigrant and citizen will not change the economic divide problem.

In fact, most employers are given a SSN when they hire an illegal. The federal government, which btw gets nothing from sales taxes but also contributes to the same hospitals and schools that you say are funded by sales taxes, is sitting on ~$40 Billion in money that was collected under the wrong SSN. This is largely from work done by illegal immigrants using someone else’s SSN. So, it would seem that illegals *are*, by and large, being taxed correctly. We are just misappropriating the money. And yet we would still have the financial issues with services because they are using the highest cost services when they should be using the lower cost services. So, we would have to lower barriers to seeing lower cost professionals. But this would cost them money, either in health insurance premiums or out of pocket, rather than the government. Why would they do this if they not only increase their risk of getting caught, but also don’t have to? So, we see what we see now.

I agree that we need to force employers to do a better job verifying documentation, simply to reduce identity theft. Or, some sort of amnesty program would get them on the books, and make it easier to collect for excess services.

I also agree with the notion that helping them while they are here helps us in the long run. When they do go back, and many are going back because the market here is tanking, they are taking back skills and education that can be used to stimulate their own economies. Hopefully, they can get their own countries in order. The only way that the problem is ever going to get any better is if their countries aren’t the type of place where it’s worth the hassle to come here.

i have read all the above. some are rright some rae wrong. i used to live in AZ. the schools are horrible they speak spanish first and its mandatory to take a spanish clas. as these teachers KNOW** these kids are illegal..they still teach them. its bull. and the under the table paid illegal immagrnts…what a shame..they need to make thier own country better and not inflate ours..mexico can be a good place if they make it better. they shouldnt be allowd over here. all they have to do is take a dam test. thats it.

I have to say if we had a firm grip on our borders and word spread south that it was useless to try to get in here, that traffic would stop. THEN, and ONLY then, we could take steps to assimilate as taxpayers the ones who are already here.

I do not propose inhumanity, only sovereignty. No nation on earth pays so little attention to its borders as the USA. Other countries think we are fools, or else don’t even BELIEVE it’s as bad as it is. Heck, we don’t even ask for ID when people VOTE. I once told a German that, and he practically passed out.

electric fence at border!!

“Illegal” people in this country do in fact contribute very much to this country. They do pay social security, because, as John stated, they do provide fake social security numbers to their employers. They might even contribute more than a regular person would, because they cannot claim their taxes, so they will not get any tax money back. Also, many of the jobs they do are ones that the oh so mighty people of america would not normally do. Who would like to pay $10 for an apple? Or $20 for grapes?
Some of you said that the illegals should just go back and “fix” their country. It is not that simple at ALL. Mexico, for example, is run over with many types of corruption and currently is having many problems with the drug wars. Many good people try to fix the problems, sadly, many of them fail to succeed due to those same problems. Even if all the illegals returned to their own countries it is highly unlikely that they will contribute in any great way to fix this problem. The outcome would be that the US economy tanks and there is a shortage of work in other countries.
Some guy said about an electric fence at the border. Seriously? What type of messed up country would come down to such inhumanity? Another lady mentioned that what a person needed to do to become illegal was “just take a test.” If it was that simple millions of people would be doing it. Green cards are extremely hard to come accross, because each year there is over 9.1 million qualifyed people who apply, and only 50,000 people get it. Also, there are many countries from which people cannot apply, including Mexico, Brazil, Cananda, China, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, India, Jamaica, Pakistan, Philippines, Peru, Poland, Russia, South Korea, United Kingdom, and Vietnam.
So now tell me, what is there to do about this problem? Amnesty seems like a plausible answer doesn’t it? The government would be receiving money for the fines the illegal immigrants would pay to become legal, and many issues would be solved. At that point, the US would need to help other countries build up their economies and help spread prosperity. This way, the amount of immigrants coming to this country would decrease. Having people wanting to come to this country is not a bad thing though, because that means this “land of opportunity” still has much more to offer than many other countries do.

i thin most of you here are racist people that dont even help this country if immigrants dont take those jobs that you lazy bumbs dont want to do who would do them!

i agree with the person who said that the U.S. is basically all immigrants… well 1st off let me start with the fact that every illegal immigrant i have known pays all the taxes required by the state… and to say they used up more than they contribute would also be a lie… this is impossible to do when you do not meet the requirement of being a citizen in order to use some of these public services. Also, most mexican families (maybe even other races, i am not sure) refuse to see a doctor unless they have shown signs that the illness has become very serious, so i wouldn’t think that is a problem either, for what is the likelyhood that every illegal immigrant will get a serious illness? and as i said before, they dont even meet the requirements. I do agree that the irresponsible and even criminal ones should be sent away, but i believe this for everyone, even citizens. Also, for those who say they should be sent back, shame on you! many of these illegal immigrants came looking for a better future for their children, most of them just so happen to be citizens! These children have every right to be here with family and everyone they love altogether. Illegals leave because Mexico, although a very beautiful place, is a corrupt place with an even more corrupt government. would you go and fix it for them, since it is so easy? Do you mean to tell me that if you were in the same position, you would stay there? See this is what really gets to me, so many people judge and criticize those when they have rarely suffered a day in their life, when they never had to worry about the complications brought upon the lives of their families, they judge without really thinking about it, without thinking what they would have done if they were in those situations. oh, how i would love if those type of people can switch lives with the others for just one day! Lastly, for those who think its so easy to obtain citizenship? think again, not only can obtaining it be very expensivie, but usually it needs to be done through marraige or you actually have to be related to a citizen. i have no idea what you must do to gain residency but i do know that those are requirements for citizenship. I strongly believe in what our declarations of independence says, all men or people are created equal,whether they are citizens or not… but then again we live in a world of hypocricy so i shouldnt be surprised.

@sue le doundrans
First of all that test is not as easy at it seems you because its easy for you but if you would take a test were what you saw was strange and you had no idea what the hell you were reading then you would understand yeah its bad but if the govt gave working permits Im sure that once they made money they would leave the reason they stay is because if they go back they can’t come back so if they had a chance to work in the US for a certain time and go back trust me we wouldnt be having this problem.

I really hate hearing people talk trash and treat us like animals no wait less than that. No matter what we’ve done we are equals and I dont care about social status or race. Actually they went through alot to have an oppportunity to help families back in there countries get food water and shelter for them. Its so funny how no one stops to think that it is possible that you have and immigrant in your family tree making you a child of immigrants just like me? that maybe they were not trated badly because for instance indians are not violant and believe in helping others and pilgrims came to there land and using there resources but I never heard they were treated like crap because to them there were there brothers and sisters no matter how they looked. So if everyone would stop talking mess and seriously I would for some of you to try coming walking through the dessert and swimming the Rio Grande I bet it wouldnt be that easy…

i bet that americans would take the jobs that are filled by immigrants. for example, there are millions of illegals hired by contractors. hell, i’d do construction. if they could reform the immigration system it would help a lot. and i am not racist. but the immigrants that come to our countr should do so legally. the process may be difficult and requiring reform, but maybe if the US government sees the problem for what it is, theyll fix it.

i think this is all BS because if it wasnt for immigrants this country will be sh!t.. all the mexicans work at the filds picking up the fruit so all of the other white trash could just go to the store and buy it.. other mexican immigrants go and clean up your yard, or they go clean your house because the Americans are LAZY to clean there own house.. if this country wount have immigrants it would be the suckiest country. thats my opinion.. and YES im proud to be MEXICAN and not a white trash that dosnt know how to even know how to heat up a tortilla or make food food they just go to McDonals or other fast food resturant.

oh and the reason that immigrants are hired is because WE know how to work hard!!!!!!!!. this is for KID 1

@kid 1
your not hired becuase you dont knowhow to work .. and the immigrants (MEXICANS) DO know how to work THATS WHY WE ARE HIRED!!!!

All these are valid points that I agree with. There is one thing we are overlooking. We can’t just have an influx of immigrants with a society that says once you make it to our shores or over the river, you get your papers. There is a system in place to becoming a United States Citizen and it needs to be followed by everyone!

hey bitch fuck you….you stupid americans always be talking about this is a free country and wether you like it or not we taking over… fuck you and your white trash bitches thats y most white kids be trying to act like if their mexican and that they be getting in mexicans gang n get shot putos

First I want to apologize for snoopyloco obviously is young,angry or ignorant.
No we do not want to take anybodies job or country. We only want to give our families a safe,free and good live. I wish all the people who thinks of us so little would infact switch for one day and walk in our shoes. I don’t think people would keep on comming here illegally if the companies would stop breaking the law! and not hire all of this people with out the proper papers.
Lets be honest we are not taking your jobs your own companies want to pocket
all that cash. Lets put them in jail and make them pay for breaking the law.

@Delaware Bob
They want a better life just like your ancestors did. Statistic states this country would not be what it is today without the hard hard work of immigrates. Do I think there has to be a solution to illegal immigration yes. The only true answer is if employers are severely fined,taxes and charged. If they cannot find employment they will not come. Simply, but of course you want them to clean and do your yard without penaltity to you and that’s the problem……..

@Derek Clark
So, what you are saying, is that dishonest employers are the real problem here. Go after the people hiring illegals, and one part of the attraction for illegal immigrants of America would be curtailed. That would also make the workers contribute by paying the taxes that they are supposed to be paying…I agree!

I was watching a show called dirty jobs and saw them determining the sex of the alligators to decide which ones to return to the wild. I think they need to return them to the wild in the Rio Grand River. That way we as Americans can still be politically correct and allow the alligators to eat them slow swimming mexicans instead of our troops popping a cap in their illegal asses… I bet if they started coming up missing in the waters it would deter them to a virtual stop… or… Our troops could just have moving target practice as they swim pop a cap in them and let them sink. The mexicans have their army on their borders to keep people out and if you come into their country or any other country illegally they will put you in jail and only feed you what your family sends you other wise you do not eat in prison.

I admire so many other countries that keep people out of their country illegally. Why are we the ONLY country who worries about being politically correct or hurting some ones feelings. I say take care of your own kind first and foremost and let the others fin for themselves.

Wow this thing has been in debate since 2008. Wow…

First of all to call Mexicans illegal aliens is just wrong nobody called your people aliens when you came and stole their land. Second if you want to bridge the gap make these Mexicans citizens or give them a green card all of them are willing to work and pay taxes so make them do that. Also mexicans are not the only people who use the emergency rooms for little scrapes. I live in California and the majority of people on the side of the road asking for money are Caucasian and African Americans rarely do you see a Mexican asking for money on the side of the road. Why? because we are willing to work. Drive by a Home Depot on Monday morning and see how many mexicans you see wanting to work!!!!!!

All PEOPLE in the U.S.A. here without legal documentation, are here ILLEGALLY! Who cares what they contribute, or how good of a worker they are, whether or not they take handouts. Immigration is legal. Someone who stays in the country without permission past the length of his/her visa, or enters this country ILLEGALY is called an ILLEGAL ENTRENT OR INVADER!!! What sounds less criminal to YOU??????
Doesn’t matter what you call it! ITS AGAINST THE LAW TO BE IN THE U.S.A. WITHOUT PERMISSION!

@Curt
YOURE AND HASSHOLE!!!!!

LISSET….Is that the extent of you’re intelligents. When you can’t defend your political position, you do what the less intelligent people do (example…LISSET) call others derogatory names. Are you an illegal invader LISSET???

I still like my idea of filling the Reo Grande River with aligators. Also we need our government to heavily fine company’s that hire illegal invaders. If they are not being hired, they will crawl back into the hole they came from. California is bankrupt because of the illegals sucking off of the system. 43% of the prison population in California are illegal invaders. 62% of people going for treatment in the emergency rooms in California hospitals are without insurance….you guessed it…they are illegal invaders. How much more can America afford??? Would you like to sacrifice the rest of the U.S. to be politically correct. I love America and I want to see it prosper, but we’ll never get back to prosperity if we continue to give all of our hard earned tax dollars up to take care of the illegal invaders. Use your head for more than a hat rack and think a little!!! *uck political correctness and reward hard work and people who abide by the laws of this land.

nathan rodriquez :
First of all to call Mexicans illegal aliens is just wrong nobody called your people aliens when you came and stole their land. Second if you want to bridge the gap make these Mexicans citizens or give them a green card all of them are willing to work and pay taxes so make them do that. Also mexicans are not the only people who use the emergency rooms for little scrapes. I live in California and the majority of people on the side of the road asking for money are Caucasian and African Americans rarely do you see a Mexican asking for money on the side of the road. Why? because we are willing to work. Drive by a Home Depot on Monday morning and see how many mexicans you see wanting to work!!!!!!

Go call a WWWambulance….Are you afraid you might hurt someone feelings…Get a life and learn a little bit of reality. 3 Billion dollars a year of U.S. dollars are being sent to mexico every year by the illegal mexican invaders. They are a drain on our society. They’ve already drained their country. That is why they want to come up to our great land.

@snoopyloco
At least you can speak english, now you just need to work on spelling english correctly.

What really makes me frustrated is illegal immigrants come here then have children, who are American citizens, but most of them don’t teach their children english. They think the schools are suppose to do this. Of course the schools will try, but then there is no help at home. Most of the parents refuse to learn english or even help their children learn. If you are going to come to a country to live, go to the library (most teach english for free)and learn it. Then teach it to your kids. It’s fine to want them to speak spanish, but they need to learn both.

Actually the American Indian was preceded by the Clovis people. A few years ago they uncovered a culture that preceded the Clovis people.

immigrants do contibute to the united states u @#$%&^$@#$^*(*&^$%$#^(

@hope Immigrants can and do contribute. That topic, we are not disputing or even discussing. We are discussing illegal aliens entering this country illegally (definition: not following our laws) and bringing the DRUG TRADE with them. In addition the illegals are bringing great costs to hospitals, local school systems, the prison population (43% of California’s inmates are illegals), crime, and taking of U.S. jobs when over 10% of U.S. citizens are out of work! Illegals are a drag on our society in many ways as listed above. Now we need to heavily fine companies that hire illegals, put a large population of alligators in the Rio Grande River. Let’s see how fast they can swim. Then put our National Guard all along our border and start picking them off as they try to invade our country. Three very simple ways to stop this Bull Shi*. Use common sense people. Stop trying to be politically correct because it is destroying this country from the inside. There will be no other free country that any one can escape to if this country goes down economically. This country will look like a very large third world country with two economic classes, the very wealthy and the very poor. Think people! Use your head for more than a hat rack!

@Curt
I Like what you are saying speak for the people who are afraid to do so

@viri
I ment for Nathen, not for the rest of you

illegal immigrants are not bad because they dont contribute and are leeches. they are bad because they are illegal…hence the name ILLEGAL immigrants. america should do what you said and make it undesirable to come to the us, but america should not do it so much that even americans hate it…. we need to balance it. punish all illegal immigrants because they broke the law but also give them a chance to become a citizen if they truly want to be an american

@hope
sure they do they contribute to america the drugs they want… but do we really need them to do the “poorer” jobs? america does not need them to “contribute” anything. with our poor economy we can give more jobs if the illegal immigrants didnt have them all…

@Delaware Bob
this is not ur country.ur an immigrant too so dont be sayin u want ur country back.everybody that thinks like u are STUPID.immigrants are the one the help the economy if immigrants werent here then the economy would come dowm. immigrants are part of the united states just like you.

@Lori Pobuk
u are wrong americans think so stupid
americans are the lazys people ever thats why u need an immigrant to do ur nasty job.

what gives you the right to throw us out?! amercians came illegal here in america! and threw out the indians! so maybe ur the on who needs to back to british or watener!!!!!

@sue le doundrans
first of all learn how to spell and second your just another racist b****

@Sticks&Stones You are so wrong!parents that are illegal immigrants would really want to learn english because their lifes would be much easier. You really have no idea how desperate they become not knowing how to speak english. The reason why they cant take english classes its beacause they are either working day and night and are taking care of their family.

We have every right to enforce our sovereignty and remove illegal immigrants. The problem is that they just come right back over the border. The border cannot be sealed just through fences or even walls. The only real way to enforce the border would be to shoot anyone trying to cross it. But now were getting drastic aren’t we?

Why don’t Canadians flood over the border like the Latin Americans do?n It because they have a stable economy and a good living standard. The living standard in countries in Mexico and further south are directly related to how the 1st world exploits them.

Don’t demonize the U.S. only the entire developed world has thrived at Latin America’s expense, same as Africa. The only real way to stop the flood of people is too make coming here unattractive. That starts by us enforcing our own laws on immigration. Followed up helping countries south of the border develop an equivalent living standard.

Unfortunately none of this will actually happen.

Illegal Aliens hahaha “This Nation was built by immigrants” also being an unauthorized immigrant IS NOT A CRIME IS A CIVIL OFFENSE stupids!!!!!!

I believe that amnesty is the best solution. We have so many illegal immigrants that contribute to income taxes by their ITIN numbers yet we have a larger amount who do not want to contribute because they feel as if they are not part of this country. By creating amnesty, we would allow for people to feel as if they’re part and they might even change their attitude towards our country. We need most of the illegal immigrants in this country because they provide labor that many of us do not want to do, like work in Mcdonalds for a cook or a yard cleaner. For all of those who believe that there are many americans who want those jobs, do you really believe that it is that difficult for them to find one if illegal immigrants can? Fast food restaurants do not pay under the table… i believe that if you are a U.S. citizen, you shouldn’t be complaining much about illegal immigrants because they are helping our country in a positive way. I can be whomever i want to be because i can take advantage of a college education and not compete against an illegal immigrant for a job.

I do agree with you on the fact that we should find a way for them to contribute just like everyone else. It makes a lot of sense. I do have one problem with your solution though for this. If we force businesses to not pay undocumented workers and assume they will listen (under the table already is illegal but it isn’t easily enforced), where will the undocumented worker get wages? They will have no source of income, so no money to contribute to our society. They will still have access to the same services as before, resulting in an even worse circumstance where more illegals will be in need of welfare. You are on to something but this exact solution is not plausible. Sadly, there is no simple solution.

The thing that irritates me is people who say we have a legal process when they are already told or know how hard it is to immigrate here. Also immigrating to america is not like going to see a high priced show it’s about survival this country is also not anyone’s house.

you all are some rascist assholes. I want to see what would happen to the u.s. infrastructure should every illegal “alien” return to their respective countries for a month. all you white supremacists would have to go out and get a fucking job at walmart or mcdonalds. suck on that bitches @Delaware Bob

by the way im mexican too so all you white rascist motherfuckers can chupar mi hueso putos!!!!

First off, all of you who call these people white racists, are being just as bad, you have no idea what the color of these peoples skin is, you are assuming that they are white and therefore being just as racist as they are. Further, using the profane language that you are choosing to use just makes their point valid that they believe you are uneducated. Using those kind of words does not help get anyones point across.

Now for my real point. These “illegals” as you call them are not cheating the system anymore than most of the wealthy in america. Most of the taxes paid are paid by middle class people. If you can afford to hire a good enough lawyer and cpa, you can get yourself out of paying any amount of taxes by simply giving to campaigns or moving your money overseas. It is quite helpful that those campaigns that they contribute to, pass many laws and bills that help their companies make more money and cheat everyday people out of money everyday. The “illegals” pay taxes out of every paycheck just like you and i do. They might not pay the right amount, but they still pay something. If you wanted to stop all of the tax fraud that happens “legally” in the USA, then vote for people who will put things into affect like the fair tax act. People pay federal taxes on what they buy versus what they earn. With this in place, no one could cheat the system, rich or poor, legal or “illegal”.

Everyone needs to remember that we are all human beings, not any one better than the other. Some people are more fortunate than others and get dealt better hands, but you cannot beat up the ones who are trying to make their not so good situation better. I am not for or against having as you call them “illegals” in the USA however, i think that everyone should contribute the same and that no one rich or poor should be able to find a way to cheat their way out. Take time to be happy that you are alive and appreciate the things that you do have in your life. Tomorrow it could all be gone and if it is, it was pointless to be so angry with everyone.

And to the people so mad about the “illegals” being in the country, what would you do if the US suddenly went to shit?? Would you not want to go somewhere that you could support your family? Then you would become what you are so against in some other country?

i agree. they just need to do it legaly or not at all!

@Shelly
The fact that you called them indians is bad enough. They NATIVE americans. & the immigrants who came into America in the first place raped the land and forced the natives into giving them things or else they were shot with weapons they didn’t even know existed. So I don’t see how that pertains to this issue. But I don’t think that kicking all the immigrants out is smart either, we would have no workers. However, I do think that their employers and the immigrants themselves should be punished for disobeying the law. At this point, with our economy the way it is, I’m sure the millions of people who are out of work right now who also have families and homes to take care of would gladly take any job that they can get.

The previous commentators tackled the issue of the immigrants never paying taxes which would help in these recession times and asking instead to have the same rights as the tax payers.
Some people even came with the idea that the illegal immigrants who bought houses they couldn’t afford were one of the factors that triggered the financial crisis: http://www.financialcrisisforum.org/forum/Investing/Do-you-think-that-immigration-has-anything-to-do-with-the-fall-of-the-stock-market-438737.htm
But from the pragmatic point of view, what can be done with these people?
Unfortunately, illegal immigration into the United States is highly profitable proposition for both employers and the U.S. government, and it also benefits Mexico, which is the largest source country of undocumented immigrants into the US.
The US and Mexican governments actively stimulated illegal immigrants to enter USA and to work illegally for profit-hungry U.S. employers. Poverty-stricken immigrants , who are often desperate to house and feed their families, respond to the financial enticements…and then are blamed by U.S. citizenry for illegally being in the US.

It amazes me the people that states the illegals are paying taxes.
They are working the fields, they get minimum wage, but on that minimum wage they are trying to support 5 and 6 kids,they cannot do that so they go to the LEGAL TAX PAYING CITIZENS for everything, and anything they can get.
I need surgery right now, I cannot pay for it, but they flood our hospitals, ER for anything they need for free.
Since our so called government doesn’t do a thing about it, why don’t we post on the hospitals, and the borders a sign…”If you are pregnant go home, we will NOT help you here in the U.S.”
Look at the hospitals that have closed, the LEGAL that worked hard to get those jobs, the hospitals close, they lose their jobs, do you think the illegals care???!!!Those people worked hard to get those jobs, the illegals has NO right.
IF any employer hires and is caught with an illegal, their business should be shut down, and they should be fined, lose everything as they have done to a lot of hard working people here.

It amazes me the people that states the illegals are paying taxes.
They are working the fields, they get minimum wage, but on that minimum wage they are trying to support 5 and 6 kids,they cannot do that so they go to the LEGAL TAX PAYING CITIZENS for everything, and anything they can get.
I need surgery right now, I cannot pay for it, but they flood our hospitals, ER for anything they need for free.
Since our so called government doesn’t do a thing about it, why don’t we post on the hospitals, and the borders a sign…”If you are pregnant go home, we will NOT help you here in the U.S.”
Look at the hospitals that have closed, the LEGAL that worked hard to get those jobs, the hospitals close, they lose their jobs, do you think the illegals care???!!!Those people worked hard to get those jobs, the illegals has NO right.
IF any employer hires and is caught with an illegal, their business should be shut down, and they should be fined, lose everything as they have done to a lot of hard working people here.
We U.S. working tax payers are going to be outnumbered. In about 50 years, since the illegals are so open handed about getting so much free, what is going to happen when we are gone?

Go back to that dirty stinking filthhole your from.Take your ugly fat women and your retarded anchor turds with you.Have a nice day wetback

exactly they say THEY TAKE OUR JOBS !! WTH? if they said so is because they are not hard workers and they just want office jobs where no strenght is required @ANA

I’m not an expert on immigration nor am I going to claim to know statistics like the ones stated previously. I am, however, the daughter of formal immigrants. My father came to the United States (not America; America is a term used for the continent not the country) 22 years ago, give or take a couple of years. Through Reagan’s amnesty bill he was able to obtain legalization and in turn, after marrying my mom, was able to bring my mother and I from Ecuador. He is now the owner of two homes (which if I may point out are in absolutely no danger of being foreclosed) and both my mother and father are business people in their own field (contractor and nutrition). They are not the wealthiest people around but they hold their fort down, through the amnesty he was able to prosper here. Originally, his idea was to work and return to Ecuador because, being illegal (formally) his life here would have consisted of living in an old apartment building without heat during the winter and horrible electrical wiring preventing the use of any air conditioning during the summer. Once he was able to stay in the country legally he got down to work to bring my mother and I to NYC, legally. Without the bill, he would have simply returned to Ecuador and lived his life over there. People come to this country to better their lives, to provide opportunities for both themselves and their children, opportunities that are nonexistent in their own countries. My father was once an illegal immigrant and now he is a tax paying United States citizen in favor of amnesty.
I never crossed the border but I admire those that do. Though it is against the United States’ laws to do this, it’s admirable to see the many men and women, even some children, walk through the desert and cross rivers just to give their loved ones a better opportunity. I am most definitely pro-amnesty. Without Reagan, I wouldn’t be here today. I would also like to point out that due to Reagan’s 1986 amnesty bill I am now a college sophomore in NYC.
Yes my father was an immigrant, yes he came here illegally, and yes he broke the law in doing so however, what father wouldn’t like his daughter to have a bright future. My life in Ecuador would have been disastrous. Not only would I probably be married with children, I’d also live in a run down house without any dreams. The United States is the land of opportunity and one that many people look to in order to give their children a better life style.
I can respond to each comment preceding mines but I’ll choose not to. The simple facts are that we are all immigrants, be it from Mexico, Portugal, Britain or Africa, our ancestors were not raised in the United States. I’m not able to provide a solution to the free rider problem however, I would like to point out that, as stated previously, unless an immigrant bore a child in the United States they are, most likely, not able to take advantage of any of the public services offered. Additionally, the free rider problem isn’t due to illegal immigrants, the problem is primarily caused by people that are, to be blunt, to lazy to work. Step into the Bronx, for example, and all you’ll see are hundreds of legal citizens lounging around knowing they’re taken care of by the government.
Perhaps those of you that want to implement such harsh policies are unaware of what’s going on outside of the United States or just don’t care, but the reality is that as the most powerful nation, the United States has the responsibility of giving back, not only to citizens but also to those that, indirectly, contribute to its wealth and power.

@sue le doundrans why are you talking about immigrants (only being ) that just makes you sound like you dont know what you are talikng about because not only mexicans are immigrants ( you better start reading more and study not just say whatever come out of your mouth. Immigrants come from all over the world. i recomend you to study more…..

what gives you the right to judge every immigrant as if they’re all animals ?? what gives you the right to judge at all?? just because your from this “oh so beautiful country”?? i would love to see what this country would do without all of the immigrants. wait let me tell you. it would CRUMBLE! you really think white people are going to bust their asses from sunrise to the sunset everyday for low pay to pick vegetables for some ungrateful people?? or clean the houses of some snot nose rich person?? average Bob would be begging them to come back.

@Delaware Bob

Recently, in Dallas, Texas, they passed an ordiance that if uopu are pulled over by the law enforcement and not able to provide proff of insurance, your car will be towed right away. Afterwards, to retrieve your car after beingn impounded, you must show proof of insuraqnce to have yourm car released. The Dallas impouinded lots began to fill up quickly and were full after nine days. Most of the impounded cars were driven by illegals. Not only must youn provide proof of insurance to have yourn car released, you have to pay for the cost of the tow, $350.00 fine, and charged $20 for every day their car is kept in the lot. I suggest other cities across the nation to follow what Dallas, Texas is doing. Not only is it getting uninsured drivers off the road, but it is taking away vehicles driven byn illegals that have not insurance that might endanger your life.

Biotches! I’m A Latina, And I Know My Parents Freakin Pay Taxes! They Fuckin Suffer Because You Fuckin Gringos(white peoples) Have Made It Hard For Them To Fuckin Get A Fuckin Job You Bitches! I’m happy That Governer Herbert Signed That Freakin Law. Atleast He Ain’t Selfish. By The Fuckin Way, California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas as well as parts of Wyoming, Colorado, Oklahoma and Kansas, Were part Of Fuckin Mexico! So You’re Technically Kickin Us Off Our Own Fuck Barrio! You Know How Much Latinos Are Fuckin Being Reported Because Of You bitches? 50,000! And More! You Fuckin Gringos Are Ruinin’ Families And Relationships!. Guess Why There’s More Fuckin Gangs Than Ever?!?! They’re Fuckin Mad You Guys Are Kickin Their Homies Out! You Bitches I Hope You Guys Change Your Mind. What If You Were An “illegal alien”? What If You Got Ripped Apart From your Family? How Would You fuckin Feel?!?!

@Delaware Bob
WHAT RIGHT they come so they don’t STARVE and for their CHILDREN so you know FUCK YOU BOB

@Paola Leyva
hey all of you mother F****ers budwiser was made buy immigrants so every time you have a beer think “i wouldn’t be having this if it weren’t for immigrants”

I get so sick of hearing the same old thing over and over again from the illegal. “We do the work the lazy ‘AMERICANS” will not do. That is totally BS, always has been, always will be. See, you give them an inch and they take a mile. They walk right into your country and start demanding this and that, what next? Pretty soon “OUR COUNTRY” will not be “OURS” anymore. “AMERICA Better Wake Up” I don’t care if you made beer or not, I don’t drink! so your beer means nothing to me. And I have no desire to make mexican food, I don’t like it..and I will mow my own yard, and take care of my own children, we sure don’t need any of you.
“We AMERICANS” did all those jobs before any of you came here, and we will still do those jobs after you are gone. Who do you think built this country? It sure wasn’t any of you! What we “AMERICANS” have built, is “OURS” and we will fight for it. How would you like it, if someone came into your house and took what was yours? And just said to you, like or lump it, you have to share with us? If the shoe was on the other foot and we all moved to your country, I would bet we wouldn’t get by with anything you all have done here, we would be put on a boat or sent back to “OUR COUNTRY” or worse. This isn’t “YOUR” country! This is NOT mexico, it is the “USA.” And if you want to be a citizen of this “BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY” then do it the right way. Otherwise, go back to your country and make it a better place to live. Instead of trying to make “OUR COUNTRY” into the third world cesspool you come from. And frankly, I don’t care what you think of me, call me what you will, it doesn’t matter to me in the least, it sure will not change my point of view about what I think, and I have a right to have my opinion, just like you do. And if you don’t like how things are here, why not go back home. This is “OUR COUNTRY” weather you want to admit it or not..I am not against “LEGAL” immigration, it is “ILLEGAL” immigration that I have a problem with. oh, and by the way, I am Cherokee Indian too, so I can’t go back to where I come from, cause I am already at home.

@Eddie

You would have to be stupid if you think getting payed under the table you pay taxes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@pie
hey you uneducated dumb ass if you had half a brain YOU COULD READ ILLEGAL YOU F#CING MORON PEOPLE COME HERE EVERY DAY LEGALLY !!!

I WOULD LOVE TO GO BACK BEFORE YOU WERE BORN AND
STOPPED INCEST 1 LESS YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paola Leyva :
Biotches! I’m A Latina, And I Know My Parents Freakin Pay Taxes! They Fuckin Suffer Because You Fuckin Gringos(white peoples) Have Made It Hard For Them To Fuckin Get A Fuckin Job You Bitches! I’m happy That Governer Herbert Signed That Freakin Law. Atleast He Ain’t Selfish. By The Fuckin Way, California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas as well as parts of Wyoming, Colorado, Oklahoma and Kansas, Were part Of Fuckin Mexico! So You’re Technically Kickin Us Off Our Own Fuck Barrio! You Know How Much Latinos Are Fuckin Being Reported Because Of You bitches? 50,000! And More! You Fuckin Gringos Are Ruinin’ Families And Relationships!. Guess Why There’s More Fuckin Gangs Than Ever?!?! They’re Fuckin Mad You Guys Are Kickin Their Homies Out! You Bitches I Hope You Guys Change Your Mind. What If You Were An “illegal alien”? What If You Got Ripped Apart From your Family? How Would You fuckin Feel?!?!

MEXICO WAS RAN BY SPAIN YOU UNEDUCATED IDIOT
#1..Gringo is not a white person
#2..SPAIN IS IN EUROPE SPANISH SPEAKING PEOPLE race Caucasian like –YOU
#3..Gringo IS A NON SPANISH SPEAKING PERSON
#4.. WHITE IS COLOR NOT A RACE !!

MEXICAN IS A NATIONALITY NOT A RACE !!!

I only got to read a small portion of teh article. Just to say, immigrants to contribute A LOT to American Society. They pay taxes and the taxes also on goods they buy and consume and do not even collect pensions or ss when these charges are taken away from them. Also, if you think they do not contribute, why don’t you rethink about that when you are having a meal???? Yes, the food you are ingesting if they were grown in US territory are in your plate because of the hard work if immigrants which get pay very little to pick up these products…. and actually America do get a lot form them since they get paid below minimum wage to be farmers…… now do you still think that they do not contribute??? BTW these are only a couple of thinks they do for America…

Something that everyone is missing is the amount of US Citizens who are guilty of many of the same ‘crimes’ as illegal immigrants. Many Americans enjoy a multitude of free things from our government without contributing back to society. We have drug addicts, drug dealers, criminals (etc) sucking our nation dry of its resources. Things like food stamps and unemplyment checks, and breaks on health care are designed to help people in a desperate time, and are not designed to live off of the rest of your life. Illegal immigrants need to contribute back and so do these Americans.

Paola,
Cry me a bucket full will ya??? LMAO !!! sure your parents pay taxes!! they probably get paid under the table, just like all of you do. And if they pay taxes that means they “STOLD” someone’s ID, more than likely.
What part of “ILLEGAL” don’t you get? Oh, please we have made it hard for you freeloaders to get a job? All of you have taken jobs in “OUR” country that belong to an “AMERICAN CITIZENS,” this isn’t even YOUR COUNTRY how is that possible for an “AMERICAN CITIZEN” to make it hard for you to get a job??? And WOW what a potty mouth you have. And how do you know who your talking too? And you are not racist? Don’t hate on the Whites PLEASE! And again we didn’t take your land, get it though your thick head, we bought and paid for the land we purchased it fair and square, deal with it. You own nothing! This is “AMERICA” not mexico, and it never will be mexico! Wrong again, this is not your land SORRY to disappoint YOU! Yep any time I see an “ILLEGAL” doing a job that should go to AN AMERICAN” I will report YOU to whomever I have too. YOU have NO RIGHTS in the “COUNTRY”. YOU are LAW BREAKERS, INVADERS, ILLEGAL!!
Awww well, if YOU ALL don’t like the fact that we are RUINING families to bad..BUT the truth is, YOU ALL ruined your own families. YOU came into a country that didn’t invite you here, you broke our laws, and disrespected all the people that came here the llegal way, YOUR parents are to blame of the breaking up of families, not “AMERICANS,” don’t blame us, no one ask you to break the law and jump over here without being invited..If you want to be a citizen, why not do it the right way? Why sneak in the back door? Got something to hide? I don’t give a flip how mad you are that we are trying to send you all back where you came from. And trust me, we “AMERICANS” will stand up for our “COUNTRY” come what may. And you know what you can do with your gangs! send them all back with the rest of you all. no, we will NEVER change our minds, you can rest assure, this is “OUR COUNTRY” and “WE” will fight for our country. We are a nation of laws, if you can’t obey the laws that are there, then you are not welcome here, plain and simple. And I am NOT an “ILLEGAL” and I would never leave my country, I was born here and raised here and I will die here. Stop playing the victim, you came to this country by breaking the laws, and how is that “OUR” fault? I have no pity for your families, there are many of “AMERICAN” people without jobs and homes, those are the ones I feel sorry for, the “AMERICAN PEOPLE” certainly not any of you. If you get ripped apart from your families than you brought it all on yourselves, don’t blame us. And you have no idea who you are talking to, for your information, I am a Native American, sooooo guess what? I am at home.

So Mr./Mrs. An American Citizen… please explain to me how this government came into being and how these laws are created. Also, (as a request for the general public…) I would love to have a step by step process that defines the ways in which individuals can go back to their native countries and solve they’re issues. I would like to have these reports returned to me addressing every country that exports illegal immigrants into the United States. These countries include, but are not limited to, China, Haiti, Japan, Russia, Honduras, Mexico, England, Togo, etc. Please use Times New Roman, Font size 12, double spaced with MLA style citations, and a minimum of five pages. Do not forget to proofread and use spell check, because there will be points deducted for typos. Minimum of 5 pages. These are due on July 4th 2011 by noon, any papers turned in later will receive a 5% deduction of the overall grade for every hour it is turned in late.

Also, please tell me how to fix the economy of each country, the US economy, the stock market, how to address the issues created by capitalism, whether capital punishment should be allowed, how to make a switch into renewable energy sources and how to avoid a world war from arising from a sparsity of clean water.

@lost please re-read my previous post, I never said that getting paid under the table included paying taxes

Also I meant “their” issues not “they’re.” I do not want my views to be viewed as invalid or not sound due to typographical errors.

A couple more questions…

How do we address the large ILLEGAL (as many of you eloquently put it in all caps) problem of underage drinking? Or the handling and distribution of illegal substances such as drugs?

I know some of you guys claim to hold the answers… Please don’t hold out! Your views can change the WORLD yaaayyyyyy right Judy, Bell, Viri, Curt, et all?

Don’t be afraid to contact your local legislators! Worse comes to worse… nothing wrong with handling the issue yourself and exterminating the ILLEGAL immigrant SLIME right? Hitler had a good idea didn’t he? If we can’t run the undesired people out of our country we should burn them!!! Or feed them to crocodiles… that will fix our problems

DON’T BOTHER TELLING ME IF YOU DISAGREE… because I am right.

Well you can tell me… but you will probably end up being burned too for disagreeing with my views. Just like the witches! OH those BLOODY WITCHES! The Salem trials reeeaalllyyy taught them well!

i just read one of the comments above, and saw that someone said it is just a matter of taking a test. i believe that if you are going to give your opinion on a subject you should really know all there is to know about it, or at least have a good understanding of it. it is not just a matter of taking a test, it is way more than that, money, paperwork, years of wait. people think that it is very easy to come and live in the US, but it isn’t. it is actually pretty hard. i do not agree with illegal immigration, i actually argue against it; however people should not use offensive words to describe illegals.
the fact is that illegals living in the US, come illegally because they can’t pay all there is to pay in order to come in the country.they can’t afford coming in legally .

i think the whole idea of making them contribute is a good idea. if the government lowers the prices of immigration costs to prospect immigrants, then everyone would want to come in. if the prices of immigration costs are raised, then we would have even more illegals in the country. if we ask the illegals to turn in their employers for hiring them, and paying them under the table, they are going to be very scared and more than likely won’t turn their employers in. however if we do what is done in the state of Tennessee, they will forced to pay in order to benefit themselves with our resources.

@Delaware Bob
Wow!! I understand your frustration with illegal immigration. but you are one ignorant person. what gives you the right to call anybody slime let alone people who have less than you could ever imagine. no its not right for them to be here illegaly but why doesnt the united states do something to help them become legal. if you had to take the test that they have to take you would be shipped to another country just like them. they are here risking their lives to feed and clothe thier families back home. and you want to say something like this when they are working harder than most born citizens. i am of native american, hispanic, and caucasian decent and i dont care what size color shape or anything you are no person has a right to call another person slime.

@Delaware Bob
why do we call illegal immigrant aliens????
its not very decent:P

@Paola Leyva
Hey, you’re an illegal immigrant, it is unfair that you don’t have to pay taxes like the rest of our damned citizens. MY MOTHER was an immigrant, and she had to pay ALOT of money to come here, just to give our family a good life. And you think that it is unfair that your parents aren’t getting jobs because of us white people? HAHA. Your not even supposed to have those jobs, it’s the AMERICAN CITIZENS. US AMERICAN CITIZENS are the ones that are supposed to have the damned jobs. NOT YOU ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. You are stealing 4.3 billion dollars a year from us (I did my research), using our resources, and giving nothing back. You go to our schools for free, those are for our CITIZENS. You all are just free loading off of our government’s money! That money, could be used for things more important, LIKE RECOVERING OUR FUCKING ECONOMY. How dare you say that the white people are ’stealing’ your parent’s jobs. HOW DARE YOU. Do What do you choose?

@somebody
Alien? Foreign? Make sense? Lol, dude.

@Sheyenne
True, true, but seriously. There is such thing as a “visa” and it enables you to come to the US, then after a few years of being in the US, you take a test and become a citizen. At least then, you are legal. The question is, why can’t they just do that?

@Daughter of a LEGAL immigrant

I don’t mean to insult you in any way, but are you serious? Like honestly, have you fully spoken and done thorough research on the process that one must go through to obtain a visa and that’s not even counting the possibility of being rejected for lack of oh I don’t know money?! Congratulations, your mother had the possibilities to fund her way through the process, those that decide to come to the US are in search for money! How do you expect them to pay for the paperwork? Plus, I’m pretty sure there’s some bias to the amount of visas given out to specific countries. And they don’t just take a test and become a citizen. After obtaining the visa, one has to apply for their legal residency. The government then proceeds to give you your citizenship if you so desire. Plus it’s been proven that the average American can’t pass that test.

You arguments may seem to be the most ethical thing to do but in reality, LIFE is NOT ethical. Because we act they way we do by saying that immigrants should be able to use our school and hospitals, we are digging a whole of debt for ourselves and the immigrants gain no debt because they don’t pay. There will have to be a time in this country when everyone will say “No. will not stop the bleeding unless you get the money.” or “No. we wont educate your kids unless you pay.” Tough treatment is the only way to progress in life. There is no easy way in life.

FUCK U ANNA ANNA BONANNA SUCK MY COCK

You know there has been many, many people that have come to our country the right way. And those that have come through the proper channels, have after it is all said and done, have been glad they did it the right way. So what if it is hard to become a citizen of the “USA” it should be hard. No one should just be handed anything. If you want to be an “AMERICAN” citizen then you have to work for it and show us that you
love this country and being here means more to you than anything else in the world, just like all the others before you have done. And those that worked hard to get here appreciate it so much more, then someone who just stole across a boarder somewhere. We have laws for a reason in this country and we should be able to pick and choose who comes here and who doesn’t. We are a country of laws, weather you like it or not. I can understand why people would want to come to the “USA” but there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. If you love this country so much why are you complaining, why not just do it the right way, go back to your home country and come back the right way. Just like thousands of others have done, and are still doing.

I spent a year working in Reynosa MX as the Engineering Manager for a maquiladora factory.
Every morning, as I crossed the border into MX, I witnessed all of the mom’s bringing their children across the border to attend the public schools in McCallen & Mission TX. Half of the students in my childrens’ classes fell into this category.
None of them lived nor paid sales tax in the U.S. but they benefited from our generousity. Many of the classes were only taught in Spanish, so the American children who did not speak Spanish were severely disadvantaged.

All we need do is,Dennie them jobs,by removing the buisness lisences,of any employer that hires one.And of cource a stiff fine,and prison with the illegal they hired,in a chain gang building the fence,and cleaning the border they trashed,then make it a crime punishably by death for them to ever return.We require,proof of immigration status to enrole there children in our scools,we require the same,for any assistance period,We dennie them drivers lisences,And make it clear NO AMNESTY OF ANY KIND.We Fix the 14th ammendment,Whe an illegals child has citizenship,remive it and deport all so they can not say we are splitting up familys,We dennie them health care period unless they are able to pay for said care.We set a date for them to be gone say six months from pasage of this legislation,if cout here illegally,they are banned for life for any visa,any form of entry period.and put them in that chain gang building that fence.we secure our borders with military with the power to detain,and fire if nesisary.I personally feel we need to seal up the border stop all immigration untill we get our econamy right and a handle on immigration.we should also prosecute,and seise the property of any landlord renting to an illegal alien.REMOVE THE REASONS FOR COMMING,AND THE MEANS TO STAY.and they will leave on there own.If they put a flag over ours we tear it down,and burn it.period this is the united states of america,we also give our citizens the right to wear there arms wepons in public,so when they protest and revolt,we kill them.that simple.

@Billy Jackson My parents were immigrants. They fled in the 1980-1990 period, from a major war in their country, and had my 3 other siblings and I. The things you suggest are horrible torture to an immigrant who just wants protection. And what if they had a lady from the border line of Mexico that got raped and wanted protection from the guy who did it, and she kept coming back? Kill a lady because she wanted asylum? And I know the President would VETO that bill, because the presidents want America to have a good reputation with other countries. Billy Jackson, to wrap this up, let me ask you a question. How do you think Caucasian people or in fact any and every human being in America got to America? Immigration! So you can’t take away opportunity for people who never did anything to you. And immigrants don’t stink up the border, it’s US that do it. America acts horribly, but has great opportunity. DON’T RUIN IT FOR ANY BEING THAT DID NOTHING TO YOU OR YOUR COUNTRY.

@Billy Jackson My parents were immigrants. They fled in the 1980-1990 period, from a major war in their country, and had my 3 other siblings and I. The things you suggest are horrible torture to an immigrant who just wants protection. And what if they had a lady from the border line of Mexico that got raped and wanted protection from the guy who did it, and she kept coming back? Kill a lady because she wanted asylum? And I know the President would VETO that bill, because the presidents want America to have a good reputation with other countries. Billy Jackson, to wrap this up, let me ask you a question. How do you think Caucasian people or in fact any and every human being in America got to America? Immigration! So you can’t take away opportunity for people who never did anything to you. And immigrants don’t stink up the border, it’s US that do it. America acts horribly, but has great opportunity. DON’T RUIN IT FOR ANY BEING THAT DID NOTHING TO YOU OR YOUR COUNTRY.

@Delaware Bob

@Delaware Bob
u know what bob????? i think ur racist because what if u were in their postion??? wut u like to be kicked out of the country

That is what gets me. People who stole into a country and expect to be treated like an “AMERICAN” citizen. Expect everything to be handed to them, expect to be above the law, expect to be catered too..you should be kissing the ground you stand on, instead of demanding anything. This country has let you in, schooled you and given you jobs and all you can do is thumb your nose at us and burn our precious flag and put your old stinking flag above ours, and you disreguard our laws. Who are you anyway ? You are no better than all those that have waited in line for years to come to this country, who are you to cut in line and think you can come here ahead of them? Yes the citizenship test is hard, as it should be. There were others that have taken it and passed it, they studied and passed it, why can’t you do the same? Not smart enough? Just want a free ride? Want something for nothing? Go back to your home country and stand in line. Just like everyone before you had to do, and all those others that are doing it today. It isn’t about the test being to hard, it is about being to lazy to do it.Some of you have been here for years, you have had plenty of time to study up and ace the test, you just don’t want to do it, you stand there with your hands out, wanting something free, always something free. We have been supporting you, taking care of your kids and sending your kids to school, we have taken care of your kids when they were sick when you take them to our hospitals, and so much more. How much more do you want? I am thinking there is never enough for you, cause all you do is want, want, want. If you don’t like how it is in “AMERICA” why don’t you go back home.

The problem with illegal immigration are,Its bankrupting americea period.Ok…We have no moral financhal or legal responsability to Any countrys people,We are not obligated to let you come here,and you aspecialy mexico because you are the ones comming in great numbers.have no rights here that we the US citizen let you have.So We have been nice in the past,let your children attend our scools,helped you when you needed medical care,food ect.So now its expected Like the privilage of having your children become US Citizens when born here,That was not the intent of the 14th amendment and we need to re-write it or just desolve it.to stop the blatant abuse and miss use of that ammendment.We need to Remove all reasons for comming,Educations,jobs,Lisences,Citizenship,welfare,Safe Haven citys,Prosecute all employers that hire you,All Landlords that rent to or sell homes and apartments to you.Actually stick you with the debt of the US citizens Identities you steal,and then put you in a chain gang building that fence.Use our military to seal up the borders,and clean you out of our contry.And we need to make it clear,there will never be another amnesty in america for Illegal aliens nor there children period.Or just start killing you in the streets,no papers you die.

you are a mean ass piece of shit…you dont understand shit because u think too much on the negative side…life is a very valuable thing..ur living ur life so shut the f up…they have to struggle through out there whole..life..while ur dumbass sits here and blog about some shit thats up ur ass..get a life…

you mean ass piece of shit….you dont understand shit because u think too much on the negative side….life is a very valuable thing….ur living ur life so shut the fuck up..they have to struggle through out there whole life …while ur dumbass sits here and blog about some shit thats up ur as…get a life….

I don’t understand why there is such a huge generalization over illegal immigrants free riding on the U.S government funds, many of you write comments as if you knew each and every person entering this country. The reality of the matter is that 54% of immigrants are living in extreme poverty, why? Because all they do in this country is try to survive. Most cross deserts or swim across rivers just to come to a country were they’re despised. As was stated previously,they don’t have the financial means to do everything by the book as you all want them to; they come in search for financial support. Financial support not in the terms that most American people think, they’re the ones you see in the wee hours of the morning making their way to their less than min wage job, they’re the ones you see coming home tired with their heads low after a 13 hour work day. Don’t blame them for the financial crisis occurring in this country, none of us here (excuse me if I’m mistaken) have the drive nor the balls to work so many hours for very little pay. People complain about unemployment rates rising or at least not lowering however, I don’t know about you guys, but wherever I go there’s at least 3-4 “help wanted posters” up. So you see, it isn’t about them “stealing” jobs from Americans, it is, CLEARLY, about Americans refusing to work once they’re receiving unemployment and it’s about Americans looking for someone to blame for the crisis they created. This whole “problem” is about Americans not illegal immigrants.

Every country has a systems of laws, and if people in other country don’t like them donm’t come to this country. When you slip, hide and crawl to this country, you are breaking the law. People in this country will not work for $5.00 an after when the company is suppose to pay 8 or 10, dollars an hour. President Obama does not speak for everyone in this country. If you want to become legal in this country do it the right way. Stop jumping the fence and crawling to this country. The meat package plants in Kansas, hired about 200 illegal to work there. They were being paid $7.00 to $8.00 a hour. When the government raided the plant all 200 were fired and I don’t know if they were deported. But all of the vacancy position are now paying $15.000 an hour since all the illegal were taking jobs that america wanted. President Obama can not save Mexico, Mexico must save themselves. The biggest blame for illegal coming to this country is the American Government. Laws needed to be passed for anyone hiring, providing housing or harboring shiouyld be fine at least $10,000.00. A law need to be passed that having a baby in this country and you are illegal that the baby is not a citizen. This goes on in all the other countries except American. So do the right thing and go back and do it the right way.

Aren’t all of these laws unconstitutional? Everyone is entitled to life, libery, and the persuit of happiness, are they not?
If that doesn’t do it for ya’ what about the people who “take advantage of the system” legitimately through welfare and so on and so forth? Illegal immigration is a joke compared to that. And yet…

Ps. Those who reccomend ridding the country of illegal immigrants…ridiculous. Don’t speak unless you’ve ever been an illegal immigrant yourself, they don’t have it easy at all. Any benefit there is to “getting around the system” is easily overshadowed by the usually poor living conditions, the constant fear of being discovered, etc.

Pps. It isn’t that illegal immigrants don’t pay taxes, it’s that they can’t. Instead of treating illegal immigrants like objects, why not treat them like people and help them build better lives for themseves so that they could contribute more to America?

America can not save the world, that is why every country have there own rules and regulation. We are a nation of laws. When are all illegals are going to understand it. Your country is the way it is because you and your forefather made it that way. Why do you all do like Libya and these other countries, say that enough is enough, but you are too scared to stand up and fight what you want and believe in. You want to run and come t the Unites States, the land of milk and honey. You need to try to build up your own country. All it takes people standing together, all 12 million that are here illegal, go back andwork to change the crooked government and fight what you want, not here in America

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@sue le doundrans
To many of you. I see many of you indignated, and degrading nations just beause of your ignorant, paranoid, and arrogant tone to your speculations. First of all, many of you believe whatever comes in mind. Why now??? Why now blame any immigrant for our faulty economy now, when our economy was in better shape, no one gave an ignorant pile of bull, why? Because you where too busy making money investing in homes with faulty lones and contracting the CHEAPEST contractor in town to built your homes. What? This is not true???? I didn’t see this in the newspaper, TV news, a hand made website, or a book your neighbor decided to write about. I saw this happening EVERY day because I lived trhough it. You guys fill your mouths with arrogance and paranoyance. You guys want to know why our nation is in trouble??? Because of your actions, we gave too much power to big corporations, banks, and wars! How do I know? Look around! It is very odvious, we saw it with our own eyes and you still want to blame somebody else. This is what you guys sound like……”I baugt myself a big boat and a big house even though I’m in debt, if things go wrong Il just blame them Mexicans for it”.
No one needs to correct me, because this is just stupid and someone needs to shut you guys up, alot of educated Americans are tired of this bull. Just tell our nation….. Where do each of you get your facts from? A website? Newspaper? A book? Oh I know… maybe from your grandfather and so on. Yes, I know there are alot of illegal immigrants who take advantage of our Health Care, and School resources and other things also, tell me something we don’t know like….. WHere did you get your money from? Who built your home? If you hate Mexicans so much, why do you eat burritos and tacos? don’t believe me, look at a video on you tube, a Minutemen was caught eating at Pollo Loco, right on video! Why is Social Security Offices filled with Sec 8 people? How do I know??? Maybe because I see them there every day complaining and faking pain. What are you guys “fighting” for? “Oh, you have to stand up and fight for your country”, is this so? Than…. do you have all the money to deport millions of illegal immigrants? Do you know where all of them are? If so, do something about it, Il just tell you right now, if you decide to call immigration on me, Il sue your ass really hard because I’m a natural born Citizen with brownish skin color. Where do you guys get YOUR numbers from? Who says you are right? Everything I know is because live through it and have PHYSICAL proofs, pictures, videos, and evidence that many of you don’t have. OK it’s not OK to have all students learn Spanish……. and, is that it? Make Illegal immigrants pay taxes……. Ok, don’t we all pay taxes when we go to the store? Oh.. More taxes, thats what you mean. Ok, make them pay more taxes…. Then what? Thats all your problems? Jesus, no wonder all of you are so freaken paranoid, just look… Where was our “security” when our Trade Center Towers where attacked? Where YOU protecting them? No, why did all those people died? And what nationality where the terrosrists from? Odviously NOT Mexican, or Cuban, or Central American! Ok…. Mexicans are noisy and drunks according to many of you. Is that it? What about black people in a fast food line? You can’t shut them up can you? What about Red Necks? Those guys are really loud, and drunk!

To all my friends illegals, liberals, or those that are in favor of allowing 12 million illegals stay in this country. Peoples today make statments from the heart, and ignore common sense. Some on welfare, medicaid, food stamps that have been given these things all their lives feel that the government suppose to take care of them because they are poor. These programs should be only temporary and not forever. Some of the poor don’t want too move up in life, they are happy doing what they do everyday. That is allowing the government to tke of them. We as american tax payers, we are just like most democrcts, enabling jthe poor to continue be poor and asked for hand out. If congress really wanted the poor to do better, they would limited welfare, and all other social program. Everybody on welfare, food stamps etc. should be on a work program. They should be earning those food stamps and welfare money. Day care should be provided for them and transportation to their work msite or schools. I hear too much about children goiung hungry and no food in the home. 99% of thildren parents received food stamps, most of the stamps are sold for drugs or alcohol. This country need to change the policy, if you are born here you are a american citizen. This is the only country that does that. This is the land of milk and honey. If we remove the born here citizenship, fine anyone who hires,transport or give resident to illegal. This would stop illegsl immigration. This is American, we are a nations of laws. The president jobs is too uphold the law and the constitution. He he doing this????

Sad, but some Americans can’t even spell and then they are trying to get rid of some illegals that do know how to spell.

Okay just because your country sucks doesn’t just give you the right to Illegally cross the border and take advantage of our education, health care, jobs, and much more. I think it’s funny you’re calling U.S. citizens lazy but in fact it is you the illegal immigrants that are the lazy ones. Usually, when there is little stability in a country or when a country’s government isn’t doing its job then the citizens of that country rebel. So my question to the illegals is this.. Why not come together and better your country instead of coming to America. Because, where are you going to “escape” to after America fails? Canada? Give me a break… Just try to fix your own country instead of feeding off ours please.

this is america, we speak american.

YO FUCK YOU AMERICA^! I FUCK Y’ALL WHITE ASS UP ALONG WIT YOU OTHER WHITE ASS FRIENDS.
NEGROES FOR LIFE

leave my country you god damn mcdonalds worker, welfare dependant crackbaby.

NIGGA I AINT NO CRACK BABY. GO BACK TO HOME DEPOT YOU FUCKING ASS WIPE

Don’t be rude, he/she may not be a crack baby! But I agree, they should only be able to work at mcdonalds

your argument is valid, a minumun degrading job is the right course of life for these niggers

WHITE ASS SOUR CREAM CRACKER, GET CHUR WHITE ASS OFF THIS WEBSITE AND GO PLANT SOME FUCKING ROSES IN YOUR GARDEN. DONT EVER FUCKING CALL ME A NIGGER. ILL KICK YOUR FUCKING GOLDEN RETREIEVER UP YOUR ASS

stop being racist. it is insensative to speak in that manor on a public website. and the funny thing is, you are probably illegal

SHUT UP YOU NIGERIAN FUCK, MAKE ME SOME MOTHA FUCKA FRIED CHICKEN YOU PORCH MONKEY BITCH. IMMA SEND YOU BACK ON THE BOAT THAT BROUGHT YOU HERE.

NIGGA I FUCKING SWAM HERE STRAIGHT FROM NIGERIA. YOU FUCKING DUMBSHIT. ILL FUCKING EAT THE FRIED CHICKEN AND TAKE A SHIT ON YOUR DOOR STEP.

there’s nothing wrong with fried chicken…

DONT MAKE ME GET MY FRIENDS DOWN AT THE COUNTRY CLUB TO FILE A COMPLAINT ON YOU FRIED CHICKEN MAKING BITCH. ME AND i speak american CAN BOTH VOUCH THAT YOU AND ALL THE OTHER JIGGABOOS PISS EVERYONE ELSE OFF.

I agree with my “homie” Tyrese! There is nothing wrong with some damn good fried chicken..but honestly, could you get me some kool-aid to go with it? Preferably some purple drank..

only if you bring the watermelon.

You know the funny thing? We pretty much all came in a boat. You can call yourself American all you want but sometime in your past, your family came to America on a boat. And honestly, this is no place for racism. I suggest you take your comments elsewhere.

i love you Martha

i love ya ass martha.

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Americans do have the right to be mad because should we end up in Mexico and I hope never then we would be treated the same as the illegals are treated there too.

So, now they are being told they have to recitr the Mexican Pledge in Spanish. A native of Mexico is the teacher, so no wonder it’s being forced on American citizen children.

So, now they are being told they have to recite the Mexican Pledge in Spanish. A native of Mexico is the teacher, so no wonder it’s being forced on American citizen children.

And you need to go back to school and learn the correct grammar to use.

Don’t you think Americans should be at least a little fluent in Spanish? American companies are taking their factories outside of the United States in order to cut costs. Here’s a possibility, let’s say you are able to kick out all illegal immigrants now you would think that the big companies would start hiring American citizens, right? I don’t think that will happen at all. You see business men and women are very intelligent in cutting costs and increasing profit, correct? CEO’s are hired because of their ability to bring in profit and to get the brand name out there and what not. Now, clearly since they’ll be forced to pay an actual decent wage in the United States don’t you think they’ll take their factories elsewhere. Factories will be built in underdeveloped countries because of the cheap labor. So now what is the United States left with? No jobs and, now, the government wouldn’t even be able to charge the sales tax on the purchases made by those illegal immigrants because they’re no longer in the country OR they’re simply out of the job. Obviously, this is an exaggeration but like most people say, “shit happens.” If this happened, the economy would crash much further and in turn, creating a much bigger problem.

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Yes you are exactly what the US needs. An educated immigrant that will of course contribute to making this country great…thanks for coming here, and the more like you that arrive here any which way you please, while we just look the other way, the better the US will be in the years to come, yay…can’t wait to see what happens to this country when there’s no one left but people like you@Loquana QuiQui

Back then it was about space…this country became great because of the combined efforts of many nationalities. Now it is in disproportion and unbalanced. The hundreds of years it took to get to where the US is now took all immigrants contributing. They came here and became Americans. The modern day Latino is much different than in the past. The opportunities that were created by the immigrants of the world are now being taken for granted. I live in a mostly, correction, all spanish speaking neighborhood. It is not right that I cannot communicate with my neighbors. It is not right that I should be forced to learn Spanish. I am currently disabled, and pay my own health insurance. I am on no government programs at all. Yet when I shop at Walmart, I am the ONLY one paying for my groceries. As I stand in the overcrowded lines, I use what was supposed to go to my retirement and savings from years of hard work to buy groceries. The customers in front of me are overweight and cannot speak English. One after another pulls out their EBT card. The 200 lb or so woman 2 customers in front of me starts yelling in Spanish at the clerk. She is upset because her $150 food bill is $6. She got some specialty cupcakes from the bakery and she is mad that she has to pay anything at all. The lady in front of me yells at her in Spanish. She finally opens her wallet and magically has a stack of 20 dollar bills. The lady in front of me is up next. She to takes out her EBT card and gets her $60 in groceries for free. Now I am up. I am in a sling. I have had 4 surgeries this year. I am struggling to pay the out of pocket portion of my surgeries which to date are at about 20,000$. My groceries total just over 90$. For some reason, I pay with actual money. The clerk explains to me what an EBT card is. She says ‘gracious’ as she gives me my change. On my way home I have to get a prescription at CVS. All of the signs at the pharmacy are in Spanish. The pickup counter is in Spanish, then English. Again I am the ONLY one paying for my medicine. I am confused. I have worked all my life, paid taxes, I have no kids. I was born here. My next door neighbor is on section 8. There are 3 children, he and his wife. The wife speaks no English, and only one child does. They are the sweetest kids. They don’t know what is going on. Neither do I. But it is impossible for this scenario to sustain in this way. In nature when there is an unbalance, the consequences are never good. An unnatural influx of people to one country, city, or neighborhood, is not right. My savings are running out, and I am not able to work. I did not qualify for assistance when I had my first surgery. So I am on my own. Why is a natural born citizen with no kids paying for his neighbors whom he cannot even converse with? This scenario used to be the exception, so it went overlooked. As time went on, it kept going overlooked. Now it is no longer the exception, it is the rule. My illegal immigrant former barber broke it all down. How they teach classes about how to manipulate American laws. How to use relatives names and get fake Ids. I was dating a cute Latina. I didn’t think twice, she was cute, and we clicked. It didn’t work out in the long run. But along the way I met her mom. She has been in the country for 25 years. She has an apt she pays 200$ a month for. The govt pays the rest. She also has a second apt that was once occupied by my ex girlfriends aunt. She passed away years ago, but no one said anything. So now my ex gf lives there and pays 125$ a month, with the govt covering the rest. She makes 40000$ a year, and her cousins live there and pay her rent. My ex gfs mom is on welfare, medicaid, and section 8. Yet she runs an illegal daycare out of her govt assisted apt. She pays no taxes on the income, and sends a lot of $ to the Dominican republic. The rest she uses to gamble on the weekends. The few times I met my ex gfs mother, she could not form one sentence in English. After 25 years, and all the help from this country, she never bothered to even learn the language. She told my ex that I should learn Spanish. Yes everyone knows this country was founded by immigrants. Most nations were. Back then it was about space, exploration. Now it is about benefits. Yes it makes sense to seek a better life, who wouldn’t? But if it involves irresponsibly disrespecting the society that created that life, it is unacceptable. If it involves having more kids than you can afford, it is a shame. My ex barber told me how his ex kept having children because she got more benefits for each child. Creating a human being for 1000$ a year is insanity. In any event, 2 wrongs never make it right. If you are struggling, I’m sorry. But now it has become an epidemic that his country simply cannot afford. I for one, being disabled, am still paying for my neighbors and their children, when I have none of my own. There is a lot of talk about illegal immigration. But until you live where I do, you will never see the effects. And if you are an American and this type of scenario has not reached your area yet. Rest assured, it will soon enough. And if everyone is taking, and no one is left to give, then what? Do we all go to the next country that has it together (if there are any left). The economy unfortunately is collapsing hand in hand with the population increase. And right now 1 in 4 children is Hispanic. Other Hispanics have even told me they are sick of the way their friends and relatives haphazardly have kids while the rest of the world realizes there is a crisis. Anyone that does this has no regard for the consequences. They could care less about burdening the rest of the world with their irresponsibility. This is reality. This is my everyday. I have worked all my life. At the moment I can’t. All the signs in my neighborhood I can’t understand. I was born and raised here but I am a foreigner in my own country. Everyone should have somewhere to call home. If my ex gfs mother went home to DR and all of a sudden it was all in let’s say Japanese. The signs, the language, the people…? Listen it’s not about race, it’s about what’s right. If I am hungry and break into a store and steal a loaf of bread, I get arrested. Sure, people will sympathize with me, even understand why I did it. But that doesn’t make me right, and that doesn’t make me not get charged with a crime. One last thing… This country is in so much debt…I wonder what Walmart’s check is from the government every month? And that’s just one store in one town…God help us…

@Martha

@No taxation without representation

I definitely know it’s not about race and, unfortunately, I know way too many people that do the same thing. And it angers me and my family. We work hard to earn what we have and when we apply for insurance it’s incredible how little our paychecks have to reflect in order for us to be granted insurance. Personally, and I know I’m going to step on a lot of toes here, I can’t stand the thought of these women having so many children just to get help from the government and it pisses me off that they can’t get off their asses and go find a job to offer their children a decent lifestyle. I completely understand your point of view when it comes to that. Clearly these families have forgotten the original reasons that they came here which was seeking the American Dream. Nevertheless, for those same people taking advantage of the system, there are plenty others who work 12-15hour days to make ends meet; who, one day, came seeking the American Dream but were thrown into the Latino Nightmare.
I say, rather than kicking them all out we seek for a solution. I’m pro-amnesty because I know those hardworking immigrants (obviously not all of them) and I know those families that sleep all day. If they all become citizens, they would be regular Americans. The hardworking ones will be able to buy houses and make their dreams come true. And the lazy ones will, most likely, be kicked out of the government programs and forced to get jobs. I’m very idealistic but in the reality that we live in today, I think we should all be just a little idealistic.

Are you educated?

I have many friends that aren’t illegals and I want it to stay that way. I don’t want to learn Spanish because my neighbor doen’t know the English languaue, so we never have had a conversation in years. It doesn’t bother me at all because I heard once you open the door to them they never want to leave. My name isn’t really JoSe.

JoSe :I have many friends that aren’t illegals and I want it to stay that way. I don’t want to learn Spanish because my neighbor does not know the English languaue, so we never have had a conversation in years. It doesn’t bother me at all because I heard once you open the door to them they never want to leave. My name isn’t really JoSe.

I’m in my third year of college so yes.
You shouldn’t learn Spanish for your neighbor, you should learn the language for yourself. Immigrants or not, there is an ever expanding global market that calls for learning a different language. .

You have to admit, it’s not like illegal immigrants are taking major jobs. Most of them have jobs such as picking grapes outside in the hot sun for many hours of the day for under minimum wage. Most take the jobs most Americans do not want to have because of the amount of money you get for the job and/or the fact of manual labor. Kinda think about that when you say they are taking our jobs because to be honest, it’s mostly jobs other Americans do not want to have

*sigh* And honestly, I think the racist comments are quite unnessisary, have some of us sunk so low enough to actually say those kinds of things?

im sorry but i dont agree on aeverything you say..you do not know what you are talking about..when ever your family is on that situatin and you are legal and your family or parents or children are no.. and you see them working their buts for a beter futer..and you see those Hispanics kids that come here from an early age and they grow upt here and raise are anc act just like an american kid..its sad and it hurts to see family pulled aparts…but its easy to open your mouth and say lets deport them all..but what about all does kids that come here and work hard in school and work…and what about all does familes that been here for a long time..all their lives are here…

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Illegal Immigrants are not slime. And since you want to go there you might as well call yourself slime because unless you are a native american you are an immigrant as well. It amazes me how ignorant “americans” are. Immigrants are human too. Instead of kicking them out why dont you find a compromise with them. Think of how beneficial it would be to charge them taxes in exchange of permanent recidency. Stop talking bad about them because it just makes you Americans look bad. =) love and peace and cream cheese.
@Delaware Bob

you are just a racist peace of shit. FYI mother fucker your ancestros came from a foreing country because i doubt you are native american. Those are the real americans. @america

I am impressed,hat’s of to you,,,

Um…Excuse me…
Podrian hablar en español porque no les entiendo nada de lo que estan hablando.
Mi no pikinglish.
jajaja
No manches todos los que se la pasan aqui les estan poniendo mucho tiempo a una cosa que no vale la pena. Yo solo estoy en este sitio por un proyecto de la escuela y me puse a leer todos los comentarios.
La mayoria de la gente que esta escribiendo cosas malas sobre los inmigrates es gente que en primera son ignorantes y en segunda no tienen bien desarolladas sus neuronas de pensamiento.
Me da risa de tantas cosas que dicen que segun este es su pais y no se que. Pero apoco ellos en verdad lo tratan como SU pais?
Pues yo no se porque quien tiene la autotidad de juzgar o criticar a los demas, si pueden tener su opinion y todo pero el unico que puede juzgar todo lo que quiera y a quien quiera es DIOS…

Unfortunately idiotic people like you don’t realize that illegal immigrants do pay taxes.

@hiopppy
your lazy use reall words unlike u and shit like that

F y’all dumbass rednecks..y’all dont know shit

Illegal immigration is draining all the state’s resources. If you live in a border city like I do you see all the resources going towards the illegals. Schools in border towns are being bombarded with kids coming from Mexico. We are educating Mexico’s kids. Just go to any school in any border town and see all the license plates from Mexico. Mexican parents are bringing their kids to our public schools yet they dont pay property taxes. The middle class in our country is shrinking away. . It’s time to change these laws. No more assistance to illegal students or to anchor kids. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.!!!!

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